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is a delivery truck dock entrance for the driver, an accessible entrance per 206.4.1

AdaBoy ·
I have been challenged on plan check and want to make sure I am not being too conservative in my interpretation of 11B-206.4., and would appreciate knowing what others think. Entrances and exterior ground floor exits. All entrances and exterior ground-floor exits to buildings and facilities shall comply with Section 11B-404. The picture indicates the situation at issue. The trucker's entrance at the truck dock is via steps. I think it is an entrance subject to 11B-206.4
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Stu_SLO ·
NOTE CBC 11B-206.4.1 exception 2.
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AdaBoy ·
I see it: 2. Exits in excess of those required by Chapter 10, and which are more than 24 inches (610 mm) above grade shall not be required to comply with Section 11B-404. Such doors shall have warning signs complying with Section 11B-703.5, stating that they are not accessible. This is an entrance/exit, not an exit so does not apply. believe me I am trying to find a way that this does not have to be accessible, since there are other ways to get into the building that are accessible. CA's...
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Stu_SLO ·
That is a good one ADABOY and you are right. This has sparked my interest since we have done exactly like you show a number of times since it was a truck drivers entrance and not a public entrance. If I find something I will post it here
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AdaBoy ·
Great, I would appreciate that. I can't seem to apply any exception in 203 for spaces either
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Stu_SLO ·
Things like this are frustrating. A number of years ago I had a plan reviewer demand I show an accessible counter in a FedEx truckers checkin office. I asked him when was the last time he saw a disabled FedEx driver. Another time I had to provide a ramp to a switchgear elec room. It appears there is an exception for mech rooms but not elec rooms. AARGH
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Stu_SLO ·
What about 11B-206.4.7? then you only need to comply with 11B-404 and not 402 which is the section that hurts you. Per CBC definitions RESTRICTED ENTRANCE. An entrance that is made available for common use on a controlled basis, but not public use, and that is not a service entrance.
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Stu_SLO ·
The service entrance definition may fit better SERVICE ENTRANCE. An entrance intended primarily for delivery of goods or services.
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AdaBoy ·
My analysis so far leaves an intent question (see last line) that I will have to ask of DSA. General Exemptions don’t help: We have our general exemptions that do not apply. I can forget about those although here are the ones that are close just for reference in case I am missing something: 11B-203.1 General. Sites, buildings, facilities, and elements are exempt from these requirements to the extent specified by 11B-203. 11B-203.5 Machinery spaces. Spaces frequented only by service personnel...
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A higher standard ·
I've always considered that a Service Entrance using 11B-206.4.8 Assuming it's not the only entrance into the building, it wouldn't be required to comply with Section 11B-404.
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Stu_SLO ·
Why DSA? It did not appear to be a publicly funded facility
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AdaBoy ·
DSA because they wrote it and I want intent, even though this project is not in their enforcement jurisdiction. You raise an excellent point though. I could just ask how the local is going to interpret it. Thanks!
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Stu_SLO ·
One time I called DSA with a similar question and the first question they asked was what type of project it was. Once they found out it was a privately funded project they told me to call the local bldg official. Said they were the ones who interpreted the Code for privately funded projects
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M. Handler,Architect ·
Existing or new building? is there another accessible entrance that the driver can enter?
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AdaBoy ·
New construction. No alternate accessible route to an accessible entrance
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M. Handler,Architect ·
There needs to be an accessible entrance. Maybe not that one but one nearby. With signage directing the driver to the entrance point. IMO A buzzer does not cut it.
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A higher standard ·
To ADABOY, "No alternate accessible route to an accessible entrance" To address Mr. Handler's question, there is an accessible entrance somewhere that the driver (and everyone else) can use to enter... right? To M. HANDLER, "There needs to be an accessible entrance." Agreed. But, 11B-206.5.1 suggests that there are some entrances that do not need to comply with 11B-206.4 or 11B-404. For instance, 11B-206.4.8 indicates that if a Service Entrance is not the only entrance to the building or to...
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