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[This message was edited by codexman on Wednesday, 22 May 2002 at 11:16.]
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The more I read and ask questions the more I learn. The bulletin board has helped soften my tone on ADA issues (see my previous post on this issue). I now understand the process of enforcement, interpretation, and application of ADA. Thanks to all.

I think we could truly benefit if the majority of people involved in design, construction, and inspection operated from the same set of codes. Regretably, I feel that there are too many opposing opinions that will not allow this to happen. Too bad for all of us.

Michael Myers
Plans Examiner

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FeedBack=This is a great resoruce! I just wish that we had had it some 10 years ago when I was a code official. Often you are reluctant to ask questions of close peers for fear of looking "dumb"; but here it is less personal but no less astute. Hope you draw more and more good contributors! And, oh yes, thanks for being there and doing this forum.

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smile I am really impressed by the quality of responses to the queries. As a professional engineer and an expert witness in this area for over 40 years, I have rarely seen a service that gives real advice. Keep up the good work.
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smile Thanks so much for hosting this forum. It is truly an invaluable resource for those of us in remote locations who have little other contact with our colleagues. This is a very good interface which I intend to use often and have recommended it to my staff. It allows me to quickly and economically "discuss" building code issues with others that are in the trenches and dealing with similar issues on regular basis. Thanks for a job well done and keep up the great work!
Chris Roust, Architect/Building Official, Juneua, AK.


smile Imad:
Without a doubt, your building code discussion forum is the definitive web location for building related topics and issues. I can't help but think, that the new folder will only foster the building department related discussions so many of us deal w/every day. THANK YOU.
Harry Chartier, CBO, City of Sitka, AK

smile I find the group to be professional and responsive. No doubt the structure of it helps. Over the months I have visited several regarding the code. The two AIA sites have not been useful and I have stopped using them. I use the ICBO one dedicated to the IBC but there is not much going on there. I gave up on the sprinkler site too. Anyway, congratulations and keep up the good work.
Terry Patterson, AIA, Professor- OSU


smile I can't tell you how wonderful it is to have a code forum where you can ask questions, get answers, and discuss these issues. Thank you for this forum!
Ellie Ross, University of California System

smile I've been ICBO-certified for 17 years and I am an ICBO member. I follow this forum more often than any other web site discussion area(s). This site is EXTREMELY VALUABLE for us all. KEEP IT GOING! Sincerely,
Dennis G. Nolan, Project Coordinator
Nevada State Public Works Board

smile Thanks Imad. This forum has been very beneficial to me and I guess that is why I have chosen to participate as much as I do. I have used information from this forum as an instructional tool for my other plans examiners. I have visited other code forums and the "Building Code Discussion Group" is the ONE I chose to participate in because of the diverse membership that uses all three model building codes. This forum goes along with what the three model code associations are trying to accomplish. The ICC is standardizing the model codes and this group has the ability to standardize the use of the new codes.

Thanks again,
Jack L Speelman, CBO
Senior Plans Examiner City of Sparks, NV


smile I have to agree, this forum is the BEST source of information I have found anywhere. Keep up the good work.
H. Boeckmann, P.E.


smile Greetings from Texas! I just became acquainted with this discussion group and I'm very impressed. I intend to be a regular participant, as time permits.
Rick Baudoin, Administration & Inspection Manager
Texas Dept. of Licensing & Regulations.


smile I have used this forum several times since you suggested I use this. I have received some good information and have given, I hope, the same. The different ideas and answers are good. It helps you to think out the problem you have or someone else has. It has helped on a couple already. This is a great tool, thanks for the suggestion!


smile I am an attorney who has had a number of code-related issues pop up over the years (I've been doing more and more work for an electrical contractor, for example). Your forum seems like a good resource for information and also to find knowledgeable people to bounce ideas off.
David Butler, Attorney/Partner, Alpert Butler & Sanders, P.C.
West Orange, NJ

smile Thanks to NAFFA International, Inc., Building Code Consultants, 7485 N. Palm, Fresno, CA 93711, (http://www.naffainc.com) for the use of their software, CodeBuddy™ Version 2.0. The software provides quick access to Uniform Building Code requirements for Occupancy R buildings. Its summaries and illustrations helped my understanding of those sections of the UBC. I also appreciate this company's sponsorship of the internet "Building Code Discussion Group" (http://bcodes.infopop.cc) where I was able to get code questions answered and where numerous discussions of code related topics were available for my review.

Terry Patterson, Architectural Professor, University of Oklahoma
"Illustrated 2000 Building Code Handbook" developer, McGraw-Hill- publisher


smile Imad:
I am sorry that I have not been responding or participating recently in this valuable forum. This is due to me changing jobs as I have resigned my post as the assistant building official with the County of Los Angeles and assumed the post of building official with the City of Long Beach. As I am getting a little breather now, and knowing how valuable your forum is in assisting me with my new duties, I want to begin again my contribution as well as benefiting from the ongoing discussions.
Fady Mattar, P.E.
Superintendent of Building & Safety (Building Official), City of Long Beach, CA.

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imado

[This message was edited by mri on Sunday, 05 May 2002 at 05:34.]

[This message was edited by codexman on Wednesday, 24 July 2002 at 01:05.]
BCDG has, in a short time become the first place I post a question or look for an answer to a code issue. Building codes are great for insuring quality construction, but as all Code Officials would probably agree, as technology changes and new developments in building materials are incorporated, code officials have to be careful and do their homework on some of this stuff. Sometimes its easy to misinterpret building codes. BCDG is a resource that allows you the opportunity to see how other officials interpret something rather quickly. Throw in the fact that you also have Plan Examiners, Architects, Engineers, and Contractors on the site, and its pretty easy to see why you will probably get several good opinions and maybe differing ones on the same subject. I think thats great as it forces you to really look at all sides of an issue. Once again great site!!!
Although I have not posted a reply to any of the questions asked, I always am impressed by the resposes and varing views that come in from different parts of the country. YES, I have picked up a lot of vauable information that is short and to the point. Great site, as they say "the more imput the better the results".

Charlie
No matter if I am only looking and reading or participating in the discussions I always learn something here. The questions asked really makes you stop and think of what you would do in that particular situation or how you would interpret the code. Sometimes the opinions are basically the same and sometimes they are different. When you ask a question you always get answers and ideas from all over the U. S. of A. and that makes the discussion group work. We are all working toward the same goal and its always nice to hear how others are doing, interpreting the codes or to just get an opinion to help better make a decision.

Rick
This is a good site to see how other jurisdictions handle similar problems. I like being able to see what other people have to say about different code sections. It seems there is always more than one way to look at something.

In my office, we strive to be consistent in code calls. We have meetings once a month to discuss problems and develop a "correct" call on the issue. We further refine this with state wide meetings/classes to get input from other jurisdictions with the State Chief Inspector being the final arbitrator. Until the State Chief Inspector makes an written directive, each jurisdiction is charged with interpretation of the code.

This forum has allowed me to present alternative points of view which we have discussed. I believe this forum gives us additional insight for answers to code questions we would need to wait until a yearly meeting or request a directive from the State...and I would just as soon keep the State out of office...LOL

Of special help is the e-mail notifications of more interesting questions. I often forward them to my fellow inspectors which has resulted in some interesting discussions around the water cooler so to speak.
Naffa International, Inc. is the one-stop shopping center for free code compliance information. Principals of this group host a discussion group for building code questions. This is no sissy group either. The participants are usually all professional engineers, designers, architects, contractors and building officials. It doesn't get much better than this. http://www.naffainc.com/

From: http://www.turnbow.net/new_page_6.htm

[This message was edited by codexman on Tuesday, 07 January 2003 at 17:19.]
This is a valuable resorce that I will use frequently.

What would be great: The ability to have the forum e-mail the subscriber with new posts (unless I'm missing something).

It's a hassle to have to log on to the site and scroll through the posts to find items of interest.

Any movement in this direction?

Thanks for the wonderful resource
Skidee-

Thanks for your kind words and I'm glad you see the benefits this group brings about.

You can track any discussion or posts that you like or posters that you are interested in. You use "My Space" and "Notifications" features to do that.

You can also track discussions in certain forums and you will be getting emails for everything that you select to track. See items listed at the end of this post.

Our forum is highly customizable for receiving information, you just have to get used to the numerous that are available for you.

IF we can be of help, just let me know.

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i am a new member, logged on for the first time today May 12, 2006. i am impressed with your site it offers a lot of very good an useful information. i am a building inspector in nortwest minnesota. on thing i have noticed is that from what i read most of your questions involve california and the cbc. is this just because the majority of your questons come from california?
Thank you Tom for your kind words and welcome to the BCDG!

Although the majority of the members may be from California, there are 1000's that are not from California and almost all codes used in the discussions are talked about here.

More and more, the discussions are going towards the "I" codes. Since the BCDG has been on for some 5 years now, going through the discussions, one may get the impression that its mostly CBC and CA codes. It's much more than that Smile

Welcome again and enjoy!
very informative. educational, a valuable resource. a person could really learn alot if they had time to sit at the computer for exteneded periods of time with their code books and thinking cap on with this site. keep it up. thanks so much.
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